Re: -6/12/10-

by oz_11 Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:52 am

lsm, i dont think its the theoratical gains, its the actual gains....people arent smart enough to figure out how to make the most of the training schemes that you allow them and then they complain and be a royal pain in the ass...thats why i think making the gains the same for the races would remove that

by Deadpool Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:59 am

I just wrote a pretty long post. Trying to correct(or rather recalculate) some things in your calculations that I did not entirely understand. And did some on my own. That in the end both showed(were made only for student/devouring Beasts ranks and I don't have any claims for higher ones) slight or not so slight advantage for hollows. I will leave it be tought as I don't see the point of this anymore... plus I'm probably getting over-annoying already. Anyway I would have tried to do this even if I was on the other side and there were indication we have unfair advantage so I don't care if someone calls me crying baby or something and refuses to atleast check what I'm saying. I would not make any further comment on the topic and relevant ones while races differences stay as they are so be happy Wink

Btw the new icons are nice, I like them ^^

by Erikai Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:19 pm

Strictly Time and AP? But I thought they went hand in hand, I was talking about being active and actually using what they're supposed to.

I wasn't talking about 10minutes of training with battles non-stop (impossible not even I can do it), but 10 minutes all together from anytime you might be grinding.

My point is: While considering other things, Hollow Erikai would kick Shinigami Erikai everytime. If Hollows train like Shinigami (and we happen to get the most AP), then yes Shinigami would win, but Hollows need to train like Hollows.

Also, in the future (if they have any motive to do this at all, I'd be impressed) I see Hollows being more forceful and cutting off Shinigami's hold on Kyoto, especially after the war. With out AP, Shinigami are crap. Give it all to Hollows, who can sit around and turn it into money for moves and items and you have a disaster.

But they ends my rant, I've made most of my calculations based off myself. Of course not everyone can kill the new AI in three shots like I can, that just shows how hard I worked. Rolling Eyes

by **Lsmjudoka** Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:44 pm

Oz, if the game was so easy that even the most incompetent of players could train at full potential, there wouldn't be any room for people to figure out better training strategies, would there? Personally I think the differences make the game just a little bit more interesting. If someone believes there is a problem, provide numbers to support that and I'll change it.

by oz_11 Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:56 pm

im not asaying theres a problem, im just saying that peoples actual gains are lower then you theorize...im not complaining, im just saying

by **Lsmjudoka** Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:15 am

In which case, there's really no point in posting it in the first place?

by oz_11 Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:30 am

there is a reason, as long as people are ignorant of "how" to train they will complain about being weak blah blah blah. i made a thread for that and still people are complaining that they have no ideawhy they are weak ass idiots...lsm, make it easier on both yourself and everyone else and make the trainings even gain...at least that will save some peoples sanity

by **Lsmjudoka** Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:03 pm

I'm not going to think about implementing something like that unless a vast majority of users say they want it.

by oz_11 Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:55 pm

you really are stubborn dude

by **Lsmjudoka** Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:47 am

As someone who has played browser-based RPGs, I believe having differences makes it more fun. RIght now I have one person(you) saying I should take those differences away. If it were a balance issue, I would get on it(which, for the record, I did).

by Apocalypse Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:02 am

I'd have to agree with Lsm, I think it's really his choice if he wants to change the game since it's his game. I also agree that only if the majority of the players want to change something than something should be done. Don't call someone stubborn if he has a different opinion on how he see's it, and Lsm frankly thinks that it's fine.

by Break Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:51 am

Necrobump why?

by oz_11 Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:34 am

ok, for the record this thread should have been closed already

also the problems on here have mostly been fixed with either lsm coding or the players getting smarted

either way can this be closed already?

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